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Judge calls on Apple and Samsung CEOs to talk

Lucy Koh tries to narrow the scope of the patent trial again, and calls for a last ditch settlement summit

By CAROLINE GABRIEL

Published: 15 August, 2012

READ MORE: Patents/IPR | iPhone

Lucy Koh, the district court judge with the unenviable task of presiding over the Apple-Samsung trial, has once again called on the companies' CEOs to hold a settlement meeting - though previous, court-ordered talks broke down.

Koh has frequently expressed impatience about the scale and acrimony of the dispute and has progressively whittled down the number of patents and devices at issue. She told the two firms' lawyers on Tuesday: "If you can have your CEOs have one last conversation, I'd appreciate it, and has also called on the companies to narrow their claims further. "If you all want to keep over-reaching, it's up to you. But I think it would be better to streamline this case," said Koh, who in May said it would be "cruel and unusual punishment" for the jury to have to hear all the complaints Apple and Samsung wanted to bring.


The trial is in its third week with each party allowed 25 hours of testimony. It is now Samsung's turn, and the Galaxy maker called one witness who claimed Apple saw a prototype tablet more than a decade before the iPad was released in 2010. Roger Fidler, head of the University of Missouri's digital publishing program, testified by video that he worked on a tablet design in 1981 and "Apple personnel were exposed to my tablet ideas and prototypes" during the mid-1990s, when the vendor collaborated with Knight-Ridder's information design laboratory in Colorado.

He is the latest in a string of Samsung witnesses seeking to undermine Apple's claims that its rival copied the iPad's concept and design, arguing that most of the patents at issue are covered by prior art. The Korean firm is also trying to persuade the jury to find Apple's patents, which mainly related to user interface, invalid, as well as pursuing its own IPR infringement claims.

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